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What can individuals do about concerns over JWA noise and departure issues?

October 27, 2017



What can individuals do about concerns over JWA noise and departure issues?


First, take a minute to make sure you are up-to-speed on these complex issues.  A good way to do so might be to view the City Council’s September 26, 2017 Study Session on this topic.  


Second, we all need to agree upon where planes fly.  Even a 300-400’ change in where planes fly can be viewed and heard differently depending on where your home is.  I often hear, “It’s right over my home now,” or “It’s going over _____school now.”  Our brains are a bit weak at perspective when things are at altitude. 


Remember, the City’s goal is and has been to ensure that planes departing JWA “split the Narrows” of the Upper Bay, then cross over Noise Monitor #7 (Bay Bay Bistro in the Dunes).  This is as close to the “middle of the bay” as planes can get right now.


Please respectfully consider doing this before you reach a conclusion as to where planes re flying.  Pick a day without fog, and a day that’s not a “reverse flow” Santa Ana condition.  If you live on the westside of the Upper Bay, go to Galaxy Park and determine if the planes are directly over you versus east or west of you.   If you live on the east side, go to the Bluff’s common area off of Vista Esperanza (this is directly at the Narrows - you’d expect the planes here to be west of you).  Or you can watch the planes from the picnic tables at Back Bay View Park.   If you want to make this even more meaningful, have a person at home (on the cell phone) who can discuss with you what they are seeing versus what you are seeing.   


Third, you can always note your concern about the NextGen departures on the City Website.  Registered concerns are forwarded to the FAA.


Fourth, if you suspect a noise or curfew violation, contact John Wayne Airport’s noise office at .  Remember that some late departures (usually departures between 10:00 p.m. and about 10:20 p.m.) are allowed per code under some circumstances - weather or air traffic control delays, among others.  


Fifth,  you can always speak with our City Manager, Dave Kiff, about your concerns, or contact me.  Hearing from you helps us understand what you are seeing and hearing.  Additionally if you e-mail ave or myself and ask, we can put you on our Aviation Update e-mail list (a monthly report about “All Things Aviation”).  You can also find out when and where the next Citizen’s Aviation Committee meetings will be held (these are public meetings, and you are welcome to participate).  The next meeting is scheduled for October 30, 2017, 4:00 p.m. at the Civic Center Community Room.  


Thanks for reading, and hope the resources within help.  As always, feel free to contact me with questions, concerns or opinions.


Jeff Herdman

Newport Beach City Council

District 5



City Manager Dave Kiff:

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